Dozer Davis

Dozer Davis said:

simps said:

TristAndShout64 said:

I’m sorry everybody- but I’m refunding everybody who I haven’t sent the scan to yet.

This project has gotten uncomfortably big for me and I am obsessively paranoid about copyright issues, so I don’t want the final scan to become as widespread as I predict it to become.

I have found a large chunk of people in this community to be incredibly rude, disrespectful, and entirely ignorant of how dangerous it is to share these sorts of things on a widespread scale, and I don’t wish to associate with it any longer except for in as private of a context as possible.

The leaks that happened not too long ago have eliminated just about any trust I have for the majority of this community, and therefore I am no longer comfortable sending this film to so many people. This is a big reason as to why I have been stalling ever since the print got scanned- though the busy nature of my personal life certainly hasn’t helped.

Also, I hate to say it- but with where I am in life currently, I do NOT have the mental capacity to deal with this caliber of shit. It has become more stressful than fun at this point. I raised far more money than I ended up needing, so I feel that this is ultimately the right thing to do.

I have already refunded everybody on PayPal (except for a VERY small, as in single-digit, number of people who I trust), something to the tune of $500 total. The full scan will not be sent to anybody who hasn’t received it already, and I don’t recommend DMing me asking if you can donate or get the scan or have your donation back or anything along those lines, because I’m not going to respond. Clips of the scan may be uploaded to YouTube at some point, but only to an extent that doesn’t potentially incur any wrath from a certain large, soulless corporation that happens to own the film and all IPs within it.

My apologies to anybody who is disappointed by this. I started out extremely excited about the prospect of doing this project and sharing it with everybody who helped out- and in the end, I am extremely satisfied with how the scan looks, and I hope to share it in some capacity in the near or distant future. A lot of you were really cool when I messaged you and have been super patient, so I’m sorry that this is the way it has to be. Still, I need to put my real life before my life on the Internet, and this has simply become too much for me, so I’ve finally decided that this is what I must do.

If you’re depressed about all of this, just remember- this movie has DOZENS of releases and rereleases from over the years- all with different visual appearances- and has still remained entirely unchanged in terms of story and dialogue. All of the wittiness, the charm, and the incredible heart that we associate with 90s cinema and classic Pixar is still intact- this movie is KICK ASS no matter how you watch it!

Perhaps a full 35mm scan of this movie (be it mine or somebody else’s) will publicly surface one day- but even if it doesn’t, Toy Story is still one of the greatest animated films of all time. That’s what brought us together in the first place- great movies! 😃

To everybody who offered their support towards this once-in-a-lifetime opportunity- thank you for your passionate interest that you shared with so many other denizens here on the 'net. To my closest homies in this community- GOD BLESS YOU. #norbitrobbinscut 😎

~TristAndShout

Suffice to say, I am livid. This was the first project I donated to, and will likely be the last. To have us wait for so long and just be given that. You should’ve known better. If you donate and contribute to a scan project, donors should be given the scan, end of. Toy Story is one of my childhood movies, and to see a 35mm copy being hoarded, pisses me off. I don’t know what pisses me off more, the hoarding or the lies. While I did get a refund, it doesn’t make up for the fact that I was cheated and I’m sure everyone else feels cheated too. I may never send money to a scanning project ever again because you scammed me and all of your donors. The phrase “one bad apple, spoils the bunch” most definitely applies here. How can I trust anyone not knowing whether or not they’re just going to hoard it in the end ? While your project may have started with good intentions; the reason why I donated was to help you and so I would get a copy of the movie in 35mm in return. The fact you pull this shit is ridiculous and now comes off as you taking advantage of people that wanted to see a scan of this movie in 35mm. Especially given the alterations the movie has received over the years and hasn’t been theatrically accurate since the Laserdisc era.

The fact you say this :
“If you’re depressed about all of this, just remember- this movie has DOZENS of releases and rereleases from over the years- all with different visual appearances- and has still remained entirely unchanged in terms of story and dialogue. All of the wittiness, the charm, and the incredible heart that we associate with 90s cinema and classic Pixar is still intact- this movie is KICK ASS no matter how you watch it!”

You are pulling a George Lucas by saying “watch the movie as it is right now with all the alterations and that’s the definitive way to watch the movie and the original will be not available unless you buy an OOP DVD of a LD non-anamorphic transfer that has a ton of DNR.”

The right thing to do is give a link to the people who donated so they can download it.

I’m sorry, but I have to agree with this user on this. Much like everyone else, I’ve waited a long amount of time, and paid a good amount of money to see this scan become a reality… only to find out that I’m never gonna get it at all because it was leaked. I guess one bad apple really does spoil the bunch, doesn’t it? I feel absolutely cheated on this, and I’ve waited patiently for a long time to see it, too. And this is also coming from someone that, while I absolutely love the movie to death, always finds myself unsatisfied with the actual physical media releases of the film for the most part. Sure, the 4K does look close to the 35mm version in terms of the color-grading, but does it have the original Pixar castle at the beginning? Nope, it’s Disney’s realistic CG castle that doesn’t fit the tone of the opening and leaves for an abrupt start with the Pixar logo, Sure, the UTB/10th anniversary DVDs have that castle at the beginning, but does it still have the errors that have plagued the majority of the film’s physical media transfers? Yes, and Janie’s doll body suddenly switching over to Marie Antoinette’s doll body always felt off and bugs the shit out of me. And yeah, the Laserdisc has the film without any of these problems… but it isn’t truly high quality.

I really do understand the mental health issues and the piracy concerns, and sure the community of people may seem toxic, but… a lot of communities can get toxic in general, and I don’t think any of us here in this thread alone were rude or disrespectful towards this guy. I wasn’t disrespectful about how long the scan took. I wasn’t going “where’s the scan?” every five seconds. I remained patient, and I’m sure everyone else was. And plus, isn’t the whole point of this website was to share these things privately or something? How did it get leaked in the first place? Nonetheless, I am both pissed and disappointed that I won’t be getting a scan with the $30 I spent for it, because it really does feel like a waste of money. I hope that one day this scan actually does get sent out, but by this point, I think this will just ultimately result in another thread that will be dead for years to come. 😕

You know had I known that this guy that I was quoting only donated $1 to the project, I probably would’ve said something else here. I should also say this while I’m at it, because while the $30 didn’t end up going to waste after all, I think it kinda felt a little natural for me to get a little heated in that moment there due to the fact that I don’t like getting scammed for my money. That frustration came from a time when I purchased a Lightning McQueen CRT TV for around $50 from Offer Up, only to end up getting no refund and no TV. Almost thought this scenario was gonna happen with this but thankfully it didn’t go that route. And plus, I’m usually understanding of situations like this and not like with what happened to the CRT McQueen TV where they clearly fished me for my money. This whole thing is nothing like that, and I’m glad that Trist was able to refund people of their money.

Bottom line though, I am overall pretty understanding as to why he had to refund 90% of donors. After all, like he said in that post, it is important to put your real life first before your online life. Even if very few people have received this scan so far, I do hope that Trist can find a way to share it with many other trustworthy people one day, because I’m sure that you guys will definitely enjoy this scan as well.

With all of that said though, the person who provided a link that supposedly provided the “scan” was absolutely genius, great way to prevent the mods from easily saying the same info about where to properly DM for links lmao. Don’t remember the movie having that much rickrolling, though.

simps said:

TristAndShout64 said:

I’m sorry everybody- but I’m refunding everybody who I haven’t sent the scan to yet.

This project has gotten uncomfortably big for me and I am obsessively paranoid about copyright issues, so I don’t want the final scan to become as widespread as I predict it to become.

I have found a large chunk of people in this community to be incredibly rude, disrespectful, and entirely ignorant of how dangerous it is to share these sorts of things on a widespread scale, and I don’t wish to associate with it any longer except for in as private of a context as possible.

The leaks that happened not too long ago have eliminated just about any trust I have for the majority of this community, and therefore I am no longer comfortable sending this film to so many people. This is a big reason as to why I have been stalling ever since the print got scanned- though the busy nature of my personal life certainly hasn’t helped.

Also, I hate to say it- but with where I am in life currently, I do NOT have the mental capacity to deal with this caliber of shit. It has become more stressful than fun at this point. I raised far more money than I ended up needing, so I feel that this is ultimately the right thing to do.

I have already refunded everybody on PayPal (except for a VERY small, as in single-digit, number of people who I trust), something to the tune of $500 total. The full scan will not be sent to anybody who hasn’t received it already, and I don’t recommend DMing me asking if you can donate or get the scan or have your donation back or anything along those lines, because I’m not going to respond. Clips of the scan may be uploaded to YouTube at some point, but only to an extent that doesn’t potentially incur any wrath from a certain large, soulless corporation that happens to own the film and all IPs within it.

My apologies to anybody who is disappointed by this. I started out extremely excited about the prospect of doing this project and sharing it with everybody who helped out- and in the end, I am extremely satisfied with how the scan looks, and I hope to share it in some capacity in the near or distant future. A lot of you were really cool when I messaged you and have been super patient, so I’m sorry that this is the way it has to be. Still, I need to put my real life before my life on the Internet, and this has simply become too much for me, so I’ve finally decided that this is what I must do.

If you’re depressed about all of this, just remember- this movie has DOZENS of releases and rereleases from over the years- all with different visual appearances- and has still remained entirely unchanged in terms of story and dialogue. All of the wittiness, the charm, and the incredible heart that we associate with 90s cinema and classic Pixar is still intact- this movie is KICK ASS no matter how you watch it!

Perhaps a full 35mm scan of this movie (be it mine or somebody else’s) will publicly surface one day- but even if it doesn’t, Toy Story is still one of the greatest animated films of all time. That’s what brought us together in the first place- great movies! 😃

To everybody who offered their support towards this once-in-a-lifetime opportunity- thank you for your passionate interest that you shared with so many other denizens here on the 'net. To my closest homies in this community- GOD BLESS YOU. #norbitrobbinscut 😎

~TristAndShout

Suffice to say, I am livid. This was the first project I donated to, and will likely be the last. To have us wait for so long and just be given that. You should’ve known better. If you donate and contribute to a scan project, donors should be given the scan, end of. Toy Story is one of my childhood movies, and to see a 35mm copy being hoarded, pisses me off. I don’t know what pisses me off more, the hoarding or the lies. While I did get a refund, it doesn’t make up for the fact that I was cheated and I’m sure everyone else feels cheated too. I may never send money to a scanning project ever again because you scammed me and all of your donors. The phrase “one bad apple, spoils the bunch” most definitely applies here. How can I trust anyone not knowing whether or not they’re just going to hoard it in the end ? While your project may have started with good intentions; the reason why I donated was to help you and so I would get a copy of the movie in 35mm in return. The fact you pull this shit is ridiculous and now comes off as you taking advantage of people that wanted to see a scan of this movie in 35mm. Especially given the alterations the movie has received over the years and hasn’t been theatrically accurate since the Laserdisc era.

The fact you say this :
“If you’re depressed about all of this, just remember- this movie has DOZENS of releases and rereleases from over the years- all with different visual appearances- and has still remained entirely unchanged in terms of story and dialogue. All of the wittiness, the charm, and the incredible heart that we associate with 90s cinema and classic Pixar is still intact- this movie is KICK ASS no matter how you watch it!”

You are pulling a George Lucas by saying “watch the movie as it is right now with all the alterations and that’s the definitive way to watch the movie and the original will be not available unless you buy an OOP DVD of a LD non-anamorphic transfer that has a ton of DNR.”

The right thing to do is give a link to the people who donated so they can download it.

I’m sorry, but I have to agree with this user on this. Much like everyone else, I’ve waited a long amount of time, and paid a good amount of money to see this scan become a reality… only to find out that I’m never gonna get it at all because it was leaked. I guess one bad apple really does spoil the bunch, doesn’t it? I feel absolutely cheated on this, and I’ve waited patiently for a long time to see it, too. And this is also coming from someone that, while I absolutely love the movie to death, always finds myself unsatisfied with the actual physical media releases of the film for the most part. Sure, the 4K does look close to the 35mm version in terms of the color-grading, but does it have the original Pixar castle at the beginning? Nope, it’s Disney’s realistic CG castle that doesn’t fit the tone of the opening and leaves for an abrupt start with the Pixar logo, Sure, the UTB/10th anniversary DVDs have that castle at the beginning, but does it still have the errors that have plagued the majority of the film’s physical media transfers? Yes, and Janie’s doll body suddenly switching over to Marie Antoinette’s doll body always felt off and bugs the shit out of me. And yeah, the Laserdisc has the film without any of these problems… but it isn’t truly high quality.

I really do understand the mental health issues and the piracy concerns, and sure the community of people may seem toxic, but… a lot of communities can get toxic in general, and I don’t think any of us here in this thread alone were rude or disrespectful towards this guy. I wasn’t disrespectful about how long the scan took. I wasn’t going “where’s the scan?” every five seconds. I remained patient, and I’m sure everyone else was. And plus, isn’t the whole point of this website was to share these things privately or something? How did it get leaked in the first place? Nonetheless, I am both pissed and disappointed that I won’t be getting a scan with the $30 I spent for it, because it really does feel like a waste of money. I hope that one day this scan actually does get sent out, but by this point, I think this will just ultimately result in another thread that will be dead for years to come. 😕

Holy shit, haven’t seen any activity in this old thread of mine since 2023… so much so that I might have to make a new one because there have been some new info I’ve gathered for this project since, lmao.

Yeah, I’ve been slowly working on this recreation for quite a while now… you might be able to tell because the account I used here to make this thread was my old “IncrediStudios” one. Quite a relic of an era, if I have to say so myself. But while I have yet to share some actual screenshots, recreate the outtake credits, and actually complete the “snowcone” thing I brought up in this thread once, I will bring up a few things.

1. The trailers may or may not be scrapped, dunno if they’re necessary or not, but they’d be cool to have for the project, I suppose. “For The Birds” will be kept though if I haven’t mentioned that already, especially since there’s some subtle differences between the theatrical version and the home video version.
2. The DTS track on the Blu-ray is very faulty. Reason being is because the orchestral score that accompanies it is strangely “stereoed” into the surround sound channels, causing the soundtrack to sound odd. This has been the case for every release of the film since, even on Disney+ prints. I have a copy of the correct 5.1 mix on hand through the Academy Screener (the v1 mix, without the outtakes), which will be mixed with the final 5.1 mix that has the outtakes, which I also have isolated from a PAL DVD ISO. Despite this, there is a subtle difference between the DVD 5.1 mix and the Theatrical 5.1 mix too that I’ll point out in a new version of this thread.
3. The color-grading, as brought up by AwesomeJ, will definitely match the DVD. I have already formulated this in Videoleap and the screenshots I have will show this. The Disney/Pixar logos will also look correct too.
4. The snowcones thing is still a prominent thing in the project, and I’ll be using a 3D Blu-ray rip to accurately rotoscope it into the film. Interestingly, there’s also an error with a glacier that’s in one shot that disappears in the theatrical cut that’s fixed in the 3D version, but I won’t use that here since it’s inaccurate to the theatrical version.
5. The Outtakes & Company Play reel during the credits is still missing. I have attempted to recreate it myself, but I’ve gone nowhere for a while. Notably, foreign TV prints have these in the credits, but I haven’t obtained an HD copy for myself unless you count a VHS rip of a Channel 5 airing from 2009 which has them at the end. If anyone happens to have a copy of the film which has these outtakes at the end in HD (and it actually has the missing “PixarVision”, “Buena Vista Negative Cutting”, Color Timing, etc… credits like the Blu-ray/Academy Screener DVD has for the v1 credits), please DM me. Again, I’ll make this clear in the new version of this thread. As a reference, I believe this version has aired on Foxtel Movies Family in Australia, various Disney Channel stations in foreign markets like China, Mexico and Indonesia, Star Movies HD in one market, and I presume any station elsewhere that DOESN’T have the newer Disney logo in front of it. If you see the old Pixar castle at the beginning, you have a good chance of finding the outtakes at the end.

And for the most part, I think that might be it! I’ll bring up anything new once I find time to make a new thread of this with updated information where it’s not tied to my old account that I barely use anymore.

TristAndShout64 said:

Hey y’all– the final encode is FINALLY finished and I’m currently in the process of slowly but surely getting it out to people. Thank you for bearing with me!

My apologies, I have indeed been quite busy with my personal life being a bit of a mess at the moment. I will be messaging people individually and getting the necessary details to share the scan with them– just hang in there, we are so close!

~Trist

Even if I’m so inactive here on this platform to the point where my own profile is outdated now, I have been keeping my eye out on this project’s progress periodically for a while now since I donated in July 2023… hearing that the final thing is already encoded and prepared for release is very exciting! Can’t wait to finally see this thing in action whenever I get it, even if there is a splice somewhere in the middle… wonder how much footage is lost from that, genuinely curious about that little detail there.

HAttackontheBun said:

Considering this short has Dolby Stereo, will it be decoded in Dolby A or SR?

I am assuming that the mix that is on the print is SR, considering that many Disney films during this period usually were encoded in DOLBY SR, so I would probably say that it’s in SR. Plus, it looks to be in stereo, so I’d assume it’s an SR mix. I will update this forum once the print is fully donated & scanned to confirm if this mix IS in SR, considering that I don’t have any proof that it isn’t in Dolby SR yet.

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Hello.
A few months ago, I purchased a genuine 35mm print of the 1992 animated CGI/CEL hybrid Disney short entitled “Off His Rockers”. Now, if you’ve seen this short, you already know that the only place you can watch the short is on the “Honey I Blew Up The Kid” laserdisc, which has been archived on YouTube before in its low, laserdisc quality. Of course, like any move that Disney would do, the short since then hasn’t gotten any HD release of any kind. It’s not even on Disney+. Go figure. Ironically, this Disney short, via the laserdisc rip and it’s re-uploads, hasn’t even been taken down by Disney themselves, to a point where I suspect that Disney doesn’t even care about the short anymore enough to take it down.

But now with this 35mm print in my hands, imported from the UK (with a BBFC rating card too!), we might as well finally have a chance to finally see this thing in its proper 4K glory… on the 35mm format! I will be taking donations in order to scan this in order to make this scan as perfect as possible. I am looking into making at least between $200 and $250 in order to get all of the funds for scanning, shipping, etc.

Once it is scanned, the short WILL be released on YouTube in its full glory (considering that Disney doesn’t even take down this thing…). Hopefully, FT Depot doesn’t beat me to the punch for this thing!

Hope to see you all in the future so that we can see this underrated short in HD for the first time!

Sincerely, Dozer Davis

Toy Story, as far as I’m aware, never had a theatrical DTS track. However, assuming that this is referring to the DTS laserdisc (that was basically a DTS version of the original theatrical Dolby Stereo Digital track), there is a difference between the two tracks. Some dialogue delays that occur in this DCP exclusive audio track actually make it so that they are placed closely to the original theatrical track. The ending of the film before the credits start shows proof, as woody’s worried chuckle before it cuts to black is placed at the same spot as the original theatrical track, while on the comparing 2010 Blu-ray track, woody’s chuckle happens slightly earlier. I have a comparison of it somewhere in my video files, but it is a minor difference. I’m sure there are some other differences between the DCP track and the original DTS laserdisc/Dolby Stereo Digital track, but for now this should give an indication that the DCP track is different from the original track and the 2010 Blu-ray track.

As of writing this post, the Disney100 re-release is still playing in theaters until Thursday. Disney’s own El Capitan will be showing the film the same day this part of the D100 engagement ends before the switchover to Frozen, so if you are going to attempt to get the audio via Assistant Listening Devices if those even work, you might need to do it now before it’s too late. I’ve heard Frozen is just the same DCP print from 10 years ago, even with the Get A Horse thing before it.

EVEN IF IT’S JUST THE CENTER CHANNEL, IT STILL COUNTS AS A HIGH QUALITY AUDIO RIP!

Hello.
I am here to post something that I have been stumped about for at least a while now about the DCP versions of the 1995 CG animated comedy, Toy Story.

I’ve seen this version of the film in theaters at least three times now and every time I watched it in theaters, I’ve noticed that the film has a completely different sound mix than what most DVD & Blu-ray copies have.

While the visuals are identical to the 2010 Blu-ray releases, the audio mix is very different when comparing it to the Blu-ray’s 5.1 DTS-HD sound mix. In this sound mix that is somewhat exclusive to DCP showings, some bits of dialogue apparently have been moved slightly during specific points for some reason. Notable examples include the Pixar sound effects being quiet at first before becoming loud once the lamp stops at the I at the opening logos, the dialogue being delayed slightly during the opening song, a subtle out-of-sync sound effect when Woody coughs into a microphone, Sid’s first bit of dialogue, which is played on a surround channel, playing earlier than usual, and some loud twinkling sound effects at the closing Walt Disney Pictures logo.

Now, I don’t know how this mix was made, neither do I know if it’s a 7.1 mix or a 5.1 mix, or if it’s on any of the Blu-ray releases, but it’s a really interesting mix and I want to see it preserved somehow. I have two audio recordings of the audio that I have, one from the El Capitan Theatre re-release (2021) that had a lot of echoing and another from the recent Disney100 re-release that sounds more clear than the former.

If anyone could figure out a way to record this sound mix in a high quality in ANY WAY, or if you have a very professional sounding recording of the audio mix that I could sync up with the BD (of course by speeding it up to 23.93fps), that would be great. However, I have no clue if that will ever happen considering that this is a “DCP exclusive” mix and the whole piracy thing. But hey, I did it so I could make this post, I guess. And plus, it would become a “lost media” thing anyway if I didn’t record it.

Just donated $30 for this project! Sorry if I did it later than what I had anticipated, I didn’t really have time to do it when I said I was going to do it. But, I still can’t wait to see this scan regardless! Plus, I’ve heard of Rare Toy Story before, so it’s cool that he was able to promote this!

I am looking forward to donating sometime next week when I get paid. I love this movie to death and seeing it on a vintage format is definitely something for me and I assume everyone else.

I already suspect that this project is dead due to the 35mm scan that is currently in progress, however I am actually interested in a copy of this while I wait for the scan to happen. I know for sure there will be some differences between the two. Definitely interested in both 2D & 3D versions if you have the time for that.